Software engineer, dad, husband, retired cyclist, wakeboarder, hunter, fisherman...hell, the only thing I don't do is run. Because running sucks.
Monday, February 18, 2008
A Message From Franz
Franz would like you all to know that his bike is complete: Apparently, he also wants to show off the fact that his basement is finished, and mine is not.
I have ridden multiple bikes with radial spokes. Most have been 24 spokes on much shallower rims. This is 18 spoke deep rim section wheel.
There is greater spoke tension because there are 6 fewer spokes. There is greater spoke tension when exposed to a a vertical force due to the increased spoke angle. I would bet that a 2 or 3 degree steeper spoke angle does not significantly increase tension. I fail to understand the physics if you are arguing a lateral force to a deep dish rim creates greater spoke tension than a radially laced traditional rim.
Lastly because track wheels especially mine incur so few miles 1,000 yearly I will experience wheel fatigue failure. My 3 other pair of Cane Creek wheels are all bullet proof. I can not imagine these to be any different.
The thought of a front wheel disintegrating is not pleasant.
Ted, the dynamics of spoke tension are confusing but we've found that sometimes tension is inversely related to stiffness. As you stretch the spoke and increase the tension you make the metal more malible to some extent.. however, the problem isnt the spoke, it's the spoke nipple relationship as well as the elbow and the hub flange that will have to take the stress from increased tension of the shorter spoke. longer spokes, crossed can run at much lower tension but maintain a stiff performance, and decrease the stress on both the nipple and hub flange.
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8 comments:
Nice Basement!
That headset has to go...It will steer you all wrong.
Waiting for the Cane Creek in Red to match the Hubs.
radial laced front wheels? reduce your health insurance deductible
I have ridden multiple bikes with radial spokes. Most have been 24 spokes on much shallower rims. This is 18 spoke deep rim section wheel.
There is greater spoke tension because there are 6 fewer spokes. There is greater spoke tension when exposed to a a vertical force due to the increased spoke angle. I would bet that a 2 or 3 degree steeper spoke angle does not significantly increase tension. I fail to understand the physics if you are arguing a lateral force to a deep dish rim creates greater spoke tension than a radially laced traditional rim.
Lastly because track wheels especially mine incur so few miles 1,000 yearly I will experience wheel fatigue failure. My 3 other pair of Cane Creek wheels are all bullet proof. I can not imagine these to be any different.
The thought of a front wheel disintegrating is not pleasant.
Ted, the dynamics of spoke tension are confusing but we've found that sometimes tension is inversely related to stiffness. As you stretch the spoke and increase the tension you make the metal more malible to some extent.. however, the problem isnt the spoke, it's the spoke nipple relationship as well as the elbow and the hub flange that will have to take the stress from increased tension of the shorter spoke. longer spokes, crossed can run at much lower tension but maintain a stiff performance, and decrease the stress on both the nipple and hub flange.
good thing that these wheels use straight pull spokes, in that case. i guess.
Nice bike. Mine's bigger, though. This looks like my bike's little sister.
And hey, I even have straight-laced wheels on my non-drive side track rear training wheels. Never a problem. Lots of style points.
Ben,
My bike will appear even smaller in real life since I will be so far ahead of you:)
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